makita sub compact vs compact

Both of these deals are limited time, so I'd greatly appreciate honest opinions. So does this spell the end for the 12-volt tool class? Excited! If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.  The impact has an IPM rating of 0-1,600/0-3,900 IPM which means you can use this for a wide range of fasteners. 0Ah battery, battery and charger sold separately). The XBP05ZB is a sub-compact cutting solution designed for one-handed operation in tight spaces and overhead cutting applications. Charging is super fast. Just wanted to get some opinions on which way to go between the 12v brushless Fuel impact/hammer drill combo kit by Milwaukee and Makita's 18v brushless sub-compact drill/impact combo.  I just think they are that nice. The Sub-Compact 6-1/2” Circular Saw has a compact and ergonomic design at only 10-5/8” and 6. The assist mode is friggin phenomenal for touch up work but will drive large fasteners easily.  At The Home Depot, you can pick this kit up for about $240 which includes the drill, impact, two 2Ah batteries, a charger and a bag.   Pasted as rich text. While all manufacturers have a compact drill on the market, I can’t find one that competes with the Makita. I'm not a big fan of Milwaukee but it's semantics at this point! I'm not planning on purchasing more tools in either platform (I know, famous last words) once I make my decision. Sub-Compact Cutting and Ripping The Sub-Compact 6-1/2” Circular Saw has a compact and ergonomic design at only 10-5/8” and 6.4 lbs. Thank you!  The 2Ah batteries provide ample run time and won’t die out even when fastening 3″ screws. Keep in mind that the Makita Subcompact Hammer Drill is essentially a 12V tool strapped to an 18V battery. Especially if you like impact drivers lol. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk. The Makita 18V LXT Sub-Compact Brushless The Makita 18V LXT Sub-Compact Brushless Cordless Portable Band Saw (XBP05ZB, tool only) delivers cordless metal cutting power in a compact size. Makita is the obvious choice to me. I have to agree I still prefer a tool that has a little weight to it. Milwaukee has a sale at my Home Depot where the 12v Fuel is $169, while Makita's sub-compact kit comes with a free third battery for $229. Torque is great considering the size. Makita Subcompact Review – Final Thoughts. The trade-off comes with their available torque and speed. The toolkit from Makita comprises of 5 tools with 18V XLT, including a hammer driver drill, impact driver, recipro saw, circular saw, and xenon flashlight. So here is the deal, a while back we reviewed this Makita combo set which you can find here. The drill offers 2 speeds (0-500 & 0-1,700 RPM) and the impact offers (0-1,300/0-3,000 RPM). Balance is a little off, but nothing bad enough to worry about. if so go Milwaukee. i have an old milwaukee 9inch grinder thats weighs 14.8 lbs. It's very clacky sounding too.  So why are we taking another look at it? and they told me that this drill will be available in a kit-form (with impactor) later this year. Powered by Invision Community, M12 fuel combo for 169 at HD, great price there, Opinions needed (Makita 18v Subcompact vs. Milwaukee 12v Fuel), http://www.homedepot.com/s/milwaukee%20m12%20free?NCNI-5. but that weight can be a good thing too.I  dont know,, i just have a problem with tools that defy gravity.  These tools are compact, lightweight and offer plenty of power. That was my only real complaint with the M12 Fuel drill, the sloppy chuck. One cool feature to the impact is the modes located at the base of the tool. Keep posting in this thread though, as I'm sure others are likely in the same boat with both promotions going on! if you wanted to get one id go makita. The 18V Sub-Compact Impact Driver is part of a new class of compact, with the size and weight of lower voltage tools but with the performance, power and compatibility of 18-Volt. I use to think if you want power, go with an 18V.   Your previous content has been restored. Aaron, I don't have a lot of Makita tools but the ones I do own are wonderful tools. As of this month their last addition/edition are the Sub compact “Hammer drills” — XPH11ZB and DHP483ZB. Nice Review. I'm trying to decide which tool set is best for my woodworking needs and I'm surprised that I can't find many video reviews on the black/white compact combo CT322W. Thank you everyone! Performance, size and weight is practically indistinguishable on these two units. Similar to the three previous models, this Makita XSH04ZB runs on the slide-style lithium-ion batteries known for having the fastest charge times. The 18V Sub-Compact Hammer Driver-Drill is part of a new class of compact, with the size and weight of lower voltage tools but with the performance, power and compatibility of 18-Volt. The chuck is cheap and can loosen easily, but if you get one that is aligned properly, it's going to be fine for most jobs.  Yes, there are other manufacturers who make subcompact tools but trust me, they are not like the Makita subcompact. Specifications Up to 30,000 RPM of speed A 6.5 amp motor 1.25 horsepower A total weight of 3.9 pounds Pros Fits in the hand well Can be easily transported Highly durable Cons Motor drops when unlocking the base And now let … The M12 Fuel hammer drill is actually pretty damn good. Lastly, Milwaukee has more sales and that leads to better deals on eBay for new tools sold from kit splitters. If Makita wanted to, I think they could have charged a premium and gotten away with it. I've also got the brushless grinder and the 36v chainsaw. He already has a 18v system so he has access to full sized tools. Once you pick this tool up, you will understand why I feel this is the drill to own. No matter how good a 12v line is, it will never have the power of an 18v etc. Lots of power for the size tool. If you need a simple comparison, I can give you my personal experience and observations. The drill is so lightweight, it's hard to believe. The 36v is a good selling point on the Makitas. I use some at work, but I usually keep the M18 handy for those particular tasks. The Makita 18V LXT Sub-Compact Combo Kit is the perfect – and right now, only – solution for the Pro who insists on carrying both heavy-duty and truly compact cordless tools every day without having to buy into a separate battery platform. How can you even sleep at night Makita? Makita has the advantage with a length that’s nearly 4″ shorter than Skil and close to an inch shorter than DeWalt.  You can pick this kit up at The Home Depot and the kit comes with a drill, impact, two batteries and a charger. The assist mode is worth the difference in the kits alone, and it operates smoother and quieter. LXT® Compact delivers outstanding performance without the bulkiness and weight of the typical cordless tool offered by competitors. This has been on my wish list for some time now. Very nice controls. Makita XRH06ZB 18V LXT Lithium-Ion Sub-Compact Brushless Cordless 11/16" Rotary Hammer, Accepts Sds-Plus Bits, Tool Only 4.7 out of 5 stars 82 $229.00 $ 229 . Eric is a huge Cubs fans and no, he is not related to Chevy Chase. There are several 12-volt tool lines available that deliver high enough performance to be legiti… The lightweight and compact design are certainly there along with performance that exceeds most 12-volt tools. I own the Milwaukees but I do like Makita...I'd get the Milwaukee, the tools are comparable, though the Makita (I believe) is smaller. the feel of the m12 along with the build quality is what sold me on the system.  The tools are designed with an incredible feel to them. Dewalt Combo Kit Review – 20V Drill & Impact, Makita Combo Kit Review – Drill Driver and Impact Driver, Milwaukee Drill Driver Revisit Plus Impact Driver.  A ton of speed and power for most daily applications. Skil has the weight advantage, better than 1.5 pounds lighter than Makita. Editorial Note: Tools in Action receives compensation from third-party advertisers, but that doesn’t affect our editors’ opinions. Just wanted to get some opinions on which way to go between the 12v brushless Fuel impact/hammer drill combo kit by Milwaukee and Makita's 18v brushless sub-compact drill/impact combo. Clear editor. Everything that I own that's teal (or black as is my newest acquisition) is well made, well constructed and exceeds all of my expectations.  If you are looking for a perfect drill and driver that won’t break the bank and are the top of the top, the Makita combo kit should be your choice. They were groundbreaking when they were released but their size hasn't aged well.   Your link has been automatically embedded. torque and the impact offers 1,240 in.lbs. CATERPILLAR 598 CATERPILLAR 598 Tool Extraordinaire; Members; 598 … They're set up that way (I'm assuming) so they can stand up with the smaller batteries but they just feel off when drilling and driving as I'm used to the 90 degree angles instead of the 45. It seems for $229 you can get the Fuel hammer drill, Fuel impact driver, 4.0 battery, 2.0 battery and a free brushed tool or 4.0 battery. Square Drive Impact Wrench Kit is ideal for working in tight spaces and for overhead applications. Great balance and grip feel. The drill is only 6-3/8″ long and remember this is an 18V, pretty impressive. Speaking of weight, I like the larger base of the 18v compared to the torpedo-style batteries. There is more plastic and aluminum making it lighter, but not as durable. Sometimes they'll say "we can't say anything yet but keep checking this page", mostly about storage solutions, but most companies don't talk about stuff much until the press release is out. These tool offer power of an 18V, but the size of a 12V tool. Upload or insert images from URL. The expansive breadth-of-line of the Makita 18V LXT® Series means an 18V battery from any LXT® tool will power the 18V Sub-Compact Hammer Driver-Drill. Chuck for wobble too! Isn't the deal from HD $169 with a free tool or 4.0 battery? They’re not going to crank out the same type of speed and power as most compact 18V drills, but they’re incredibly handy tools to have when you want 12V size without leaving Makita’s 18V battery.  There is an A-Mode (assist Mode). The compact size combined with the Makita-built brushless motor delivers up to 5,000 RPM and a superior power-to-weight ratio.  I still like cases for my tools. Big thank you to everyone who's posted. Followers 2. I know this is like comparing apples to oranges but I’m looking for a high quality drill for my home projects. If you were blindfolded and you picked up these tools, you would assume they were 12V tools, they are that small and lightweight. Makita XSH04ZB 18V LXT Sub-Compact Brushless 6-1/2" Circular Saw I'll have to purchase a hook. I also found the grip of the M12 fuel to be a bit small and odd fitting.  I know some people say who cares about the feel, but if you are using tools all day, you understand how important the right tool can be. The Makita is a much bigger line for their 18V tools and I really like how I can use one battery platform with the Makita. One thing I've already noticed with the Fuel is the chuck spins. While only clocking in at an average weight of 3.3 lbs. I had the Fuel and now have the Makita subcompact. Charging is slow.... Makita has made a very nice sub compact set. The 18-Volt LXT Sub-Compact Brushless 1/2 in. Any operator can surely make the most of this tool as it spends more time working than sitting on the charger. I have the brushless barrel grip 18v jigsaw, their new brushless 18v recip, the brushless 18v sander and the new compact impact gun. I've been using my 18v jigsaw for the last several weeks and though it ain't my Carvex it's an awesome portable saw. A smaller, more compact design isn’t always good enough. M12 fuel combo for 169 at HD, great price thereSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk, They are long overdue for a refresh, it's probably coming soon. You have entered an incorrect email address! We need to go Sub-Compact! Milwaukee has a sale at my Home Depot where the 12v Fuel is $169, while Makita's sub-compact kit comes with a free third battery for $229. Do you want a hand held planer, sander, or other wood working tools? Both Makita 18V LXT Sub-Compact Drill-Driver and Impact Driver have dual LED worklights, rubberized soft grip handles, and Makita’s BL brushless motors. In addition to having better ergonomics, I've found that the drill is superior (non-spinning chuck, shorter length) and the impact is as well (assist mode, slightly higher torque). The 18V sub-compact driver-drill and impact driver are a new category of compact, with the weight and size of lower voltage power tools but with the compatibility, power, and performance of 18V. It also includes two BL1820B 18V LXT Lithium-Ion compact 2.0Ah batteries and the DC18RC Rapid Optimum Charger. of torque. Makita created a new class in cordless with Makita created a new class in cordless with 18-Volt LXT Sub-Compact tools. Today, LXT® Compact continues to refine the formula of faster-charging batteries, more power and speed, and a leading power-to-weight ratio. While all manufacturers have a compact drill on the market, I can’t find one that competes with the Makita. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. They seem to be clearing out a lot of M12 stuff. By × I think this 18v sub-compact lineup has taken the Makita 12v out of the market. I don’t think so. The Makita sub-compact tools have been a big hit. I tried hard to find something I don’t like … One thing that's really awkward about the 12v Fuels are their angled chucks on both the drill and impact. It's awkward. (with 18-Volt LXT Compact 2.0 Ah battery).  This kit has been on the market for a while and we have heard a ton of feedback.  It’s clear this is a winning tool and we wanted to make sure it gets its respect from the tool world. The compact size combined with the Makita-built brushless motor delivers up to 5, 000 RPM and a superior power-to-weight ratio. The chuck has a nice ratchet feel, doesn't loosen either. If you were to pick up these tools, I promise you that your first thoughts would be they feel good and they are cool, but won’t perform much work. Compact vs Regular.  Now I am not saying you’re going to be mixing concrete with the driver, but when you look at the size of these tools, you will be impressed by their output. Agree, I like the M12 Fuel tools as well, as they are perfect garage use. These tools are compact, lightweight and offer plenty of power. M12 Fuel vs Makita Sub Compact. I was speaking to a national rep (Canada). if so go Makita. I know Milwaukee's 12v Fuel has been out for 3-4 years, but they told me they don't have any plans to come out with newer versions of their Fuel fasteners. With the Makita, you get the best of both worlds!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk, The only reason to buy the Milwaukee is practicality, there's a huge m12 lineup. Reply to this topic; Start new topic; Recommended Posts. if you can wait id hold off for a few months to see what else they will bring out. 00 I picked up the 12v Fuel to give it a trial run, and will do the same with the Makita, and return one or the other (or both) after testing them out a bit. It's light, compact and super comfortable to use. Yes but the m12 lineup is bigger than the Makita 18v compact line. The most glaring and annoying thing about the Makita impact is that it doesn't have a quick load collet. Two-Handed: Makita 18V LXT Brushless Sub-Compact Reciprocating Saw. Paste as plain text instead, × The noise level of the M12 is also crazy high. I already have Milwaukee's surge/hammer drill 18v combo and a Fuel circ. One of the great things about 12v tools is their ergonomics.  This is where you’re wrong. The big deal surrounding the new Makita Sub-Compact Circular Saw involves its combination of performance and size. Read our Editorial Guidelines to learn more about our team.  Amazing for an 18V system. Never used the Makita compact tools though. Both tools are designed with a brushless motor which means more power and a longer life. aabee, The hammer function on the m12 Fuel is nice to have but keep in mind that it isn't close to being as good as a m18 hammer functionality...so that difference is relatively moot. note: made some quick 2x4 cuts and it … I’ve been looking at some of the smaller drills and after a lot of debate I think 12v will work for me. As far as weight, the tool only weighs 2.8 lbs and that is with a battery. It will be for only these kits. The 1/2-inch drill-driver is 6-3/8-inch long, boasts a mechanical variable 2-speed transmission of 0-500 and 0-1,700 RPM, and weights 2.8 pounds including the 18V battery. http://www.homedepot.com/s/milwaukee%20m12%20free?NCNI-5. This isn't to say the Fuel isn't good (it certainly is), but I knew I made the right decision the minute I sank my first screw. × Â The drill offers 350 in.lbs. Tools in Action Makita raised the bar with their subcompact line.   You cannot paste images directly. Is this common? They both feel great ergonomically, and appear to have similar specs. Both the drill and impact offer a ton of power for their size. It's awesome. All of these come inside a stylish contractor bag that has the trademark color of Makita. The expansive breadth-of-line of the Makita 18-Volt LXT® Series means an 18-Volt battery from any LXT® tool will power the 18-Volt Sub-Compact Impact Driver. La Mirada, CA – Makita® has created a new class in cordless tools with the release of 18V LXT® Sub-Compact Brushless. But I'm just looking for something compact at the moment, and there isn't anything planned there and their 12v line is weak akin to DeWalt but with marginally better support. I bought the set for my dad for $200 from HD, which is the present price. Makita drill/driver premium vs compact vs sub-compact. DeWalt has a 20V MAX tool kit consisting of five tools: a cordless drill, compact driver, flashlight, circular saw, and grinder. For me it was simple. Makita finishes with a slight advantage over Skil in the overall size race. Of all the comparisons to make I don't think this one stands up. That new compact gun is awesome! Large selection of 12 volt tools by Milwaukee also. At least the ones I have. There new stuff looks great. But it was one of those things where you couldn’t have power and compact. Makita Sub-Compact Drill / Driver & Impact Driver – Get a Grip on the Ergonomics Comfortable ergo with a compact form-factor make the Makita Sub-Compact tools feel like a natural extension of your hand. The drill is lightweight and feels great in your hands. saw, as well as Hitachi's Triple Hammer, so I'm not looking to expand much (if at all) in either the Milwaukee 12v or the Makita 18v (knock on wood). I like my M12 stuff but the Fuel M12 stuff isn't very compact anymore comparatively.  I tried hard to find something I don’t like about them, but even with a low price tag, it’s hard to beat.  These tools are awesome. 4 lbs. I love the Milwaukee M12 Fuel tools. (with 18V LXT Compact 2. The impact has 2 speeds and Cam out mode, with led control. When you squeeze, the back of grip it feels like it pushes away from your hand. If you aren’t familiar with them, the sub-compact line is a smaller tool, that packs a powerful punch and still uses their 18V battery. But it depends on what tools you want. Once you get it, let us know what you think. I'm slightly leaning Makita to begin with. The only reason to buy the Milwaukee is practicality, there's a huge m12 lineup. The feel in the hand is awesome. Hitachi really seems to be bringing new tools to the market lately. Re: Hitachi, they're indeed killing it of late; their Triple Hammer is my Rolls Royce of power tools. and length of 7.25 inches, it can deliver as much as 480 in. These tools are awesome for hanging cabinets and a ton of other applications. By CATERPILLAR, March 8, 2017 in Makita.  However, they chose to offer an incredible value for these. I friggin' love it. Even mentioned the fact that their Fuel drill/driver in particular is longer than most compact 18v drills these days.  If you want compact to go with a 12V. It’s accurate to the best of our knowledge when posted. This drill/driver sits in between their regular premium line and the sub-compact. You can post now and register later. M12 Fuel impact is quite a bit heavier and the balance is a bit off. (with 18V LXT Compact 2.0Ah battery). Haven’t used it myself yet, but all the reviews are stellar and I’m glad I bought it. I wanted sub-compact, but having 2 battery platforms sucks. Both of them are great tools. Stay up to Date on Tool Reviews, Tool News and More. I reached out to Milwaukee via their Facebook page and asked them when/if they'd be releasing more compact M12 fasteners a few weeks ago, and they told me nothing was in the works. Batteries have the fuel gauge so you don't need the tool to see capacity.  If I had to be picky, it would be the bag.  Personally, I think Makita broke the mold with the subcompact platform. Their social media team will say nothing about anything that hasn't been formally announced. I was gonna say... 18v Makita lineup is pretty big too. I like the feel of the 2753 over the dcf 887 because it feels like its built heavier in the motor and impact mechanism but in reality I'm sure the dcf 887 is probably just as durable and might be less fatiguing over a days work. While he loves remodeling his house, his passion is spending time with his wife and two children. Makita XSH04ZB LXt Sub-compact Cordless Circular Saw. Makita Sub-Compact gives users 12-Volt handling with 18-Volt run time and compatibility with the worlds largest 18-Volt lithium-ion cordless tool system. Like I said in the intro, you’re going to see a ton more sub-compact models from Makita this year, like the Sub-Compact LXT Reciprocating Saw I used on the Built In Closet project.  Not a bad deal to jump into a huge platform with two nice tools to start out with. Makita XFD10R 18V Compact Lithium-Ion Cordless Driver Drill Kit On the other side of the fence, we have a brushed cordless driver drill from Makita that produces incredible strength for its size. Our marketing partners don’t review, approve or endorse our editorial content. The Sub-Compact 6-1/2 Circular Saw has a compact and ergonomic design at only 10-5/8 and 6.4 lbs. March 21, 2017 in Power Tools. The compact size combined with the Makita-built brushless motor delivers up to 5,000 RPM and a superior power-to-weight ratio. trying to decide between the subcompact or M12 gen2 combo kit any advice. It's also the cheapest of the trio. T, Well the obvious counter would be:  Makita's 18V system is triple the size of Milwaukee's 12V. I know its probably all mental and I'm sure manufacturer are using new light weight materials that are just as strong. Its size, which is even smaller than other compact 18V models, makes it incredibly lightweight and compact. Milwaukee has the new version out which we will be reviewing soon. The driver is only 2.8 lbs while the impact is only 2.6 lbs.  When on this setting the tool controls itself to help eliminate cam out and cross threading by driving at low speeds. I’m a DIYer but want quality features and long lasting performance. Much better than the impact for overall performance. Great review I just ran across this page. Makita 18v LXT XSH04 6-1/2″ Circular Saw. Plus the assist mode is actually quite quiet. The new 18V LXT Sub-Compact Brushless includes the most compact and lightest weight tools in the 18V category, giving contractors the size and handling of a 12-volt tool with the performance, power and compatibility of 18 volt. i dont have a problem at all with my m12 fuel system, i have five tools inside a milwaukee hard case along with  four lights, two chargers and a bunch of batteries.cant do that with my 18 volt dewalt system. That stinks you have to wait. Just used the sub-compact 18v impact driver today. Speaking of compact, let’s jump into the Makita Sub Compact Circular Saw Review and see how this saw performs. I'm going to go with the Makita. Makita ; Compact vs Regular Sign in to follow this . Do you want a cordless ratchet? Plus Enter to Win Future Tool Giveaways! I didn't even put a bit in it; it continues to spin after I release the trigger for a second or two, and this happens on both the 1st and 2nd gear. The charger for your m18s will work for the m12, so you aren't adding a charger. Makita Sub-Compact gives users 12-Volt handling with 18-Volt run time and compatibility with the worlds largest 18-Volt lithium-ion cordless tool system. So here is our Makita Subcompact Review. The only major flaw is the lack of a hammer option. The CX200RB combo kit contains the XFD11ZB compact drill/driver and the XDT15ZB impact driver. i like to feel the tool in my hand, maufactures are being pressed so hard to make things lighter and smaller, some of the new tools i pick up today are so light, that they feel really cheap, thats not for me, but thats me talking. Makita Sub Compact Circular Saw Review Overview. Display as a link instead, × Basically comes down to the grip you prefer, the batteries you have and whether the one-handed bit change is worth having 2.5 speeds instead of 4 (come on; the 887 precision mode doesn't really count for much lol). Makita Sub-Compact Drill XFD11ZB. The entire Sub-Compact lineup is designed to have the compact size and weight of 12-volt tools without forcing you away from Makita’s 18-volt battery. Check out the price of the Makita RT0701C compact router. Makita CX200RB 18V LXT Sub-Compact Combo Kit. The M12 stuff is good, but heavy and the balance is odd. It's one of the many reasons I returned my Kobalt 24v drill; the chuck kept spinning and it wouldn't retain my bit after I let off the trigger.

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